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Local election workers fear threats to their safety as November nears. One group is trying to help

Local election workers fear threats to their safety as November nears. One group is trying to help
THE CHIEF ELECTION OFFICIALS IN THEIR STATE. IT鈥橲 THEIR JOB TO OVERSEE THE PROCESS, MAKE SURE PEOPLE鈥橲 VOTES ARE SECURE, AND MAKE SURE THOSE WORKING THE POLLS ARE SAFE, AND MAKE SURE THERE鈥橲 A TRANSPARENT AND FAIR PROCESS THAT THE PUBLIC TRUSTS. SCOTT SCHWAB IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE STATE OF KANSAS. HE鈥橲 ALSO THE HEAD OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SECRETARIES OF STATE. IT鈥橲 NICE TO HAVE YOU IN OUR STUDIO. IT鈥橲 HONOR TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME. SO I GUESS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THE UPCOMING ELECTION? WELL, WE鈥橰E FEELING GOOD. MANY FOLKS ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF RHETORIC, AND I鈥橫 REALLY CLEAR TO EXPLAIN. THERE鈥橲 A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CAMPAIGN SIDE AND THERE鈥橲 THE ACTUAL ELECTION SIDE. AND WE鈥橰E ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS MOSTLY ABOUT 40 SECRETARIES OF STATE ARE WE鈥橰E FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH A PANDEMIC AND AND DO AN ELECTION, WE CAN DO THIS. ARE THERE SPECIFIC STEPS THAT YOU鈥橵E BEEN TAKEN THAT YOU WOULD SAY ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU鈥橰E DOING TO ENSURE, IN FACT, THAT IT鈥橲 SAFE AND IT鈥橲 ACCURATE AND IT鈥橲 VALID? AND THE THE, THE PUBLIC TRUSTS IT? YEAH, IT鈥橲 AN ONGOING PROCESS. RIGHT? WE鈥橰E CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH OUR STATES ON LAWS AND ALSO MAKING SURE THINGS ARE FUNDED TO THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE. BUT OVERALL WE CAN鈥橳. WE鈥橰E RUN BY VOLUNTEERS. I MEAN, FEW COLLEGES HAVE DEGREES IN ELECTIONS. IT鈥橲 YOUR ELECTIONS RUN BY YOUR NEIGHBORS. IF YOU DON鈥橳 TRUST YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH YOU, BUT BY AND LARGE, IT鈥橲 IT鈥橲 WE WE TRUST WHAT WE DO. AND OUR NEIGHBORS SAY THEY MAY BLAME ANOTHER STATE, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THEY OFTEN LIKE THE WAY THEIR STATE RUNS THE ELECTION THAT IS ALMOST LIKE THE DEFINITION OF AMERICAN POLITIC RIGHT NOW. I KNOW YOU鈥橵E BEEN MEETING WITH PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE FBI. WHAT KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS ARE YOU HAVING? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM THOSE PARTNERS? SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE CONVERSATIONS SOMETIMES LIKE THE TOUCH SCREEN VOTING MACHINES, THAT鈥橲 REALLY NOT OUR CONCERN. WE鈥橰E MORE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR POLL BOOKS AND OUR DATA. WHAT鈥橲 A POLL BOOK? SO WHEN YOU REGISTER TO VOTE, WE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION. WE HAVE WHERE YOU LIVE. SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF BALLOT YOU鈥橰E GOING TO GET. OUR CONCERN IS IF A FOREIGN ADVERSARY WERE TO GET ACCESS TO THAT AND MANIPULATE THE DATA. SO NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT BALLOT. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE鈥橲 A LACK OF TRUST IN ELECTIONS. AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE LACK OF TRUST IN ELECTIONS, YOU END UP DESCENDING INTO CHAOS. HOW WORRIED ARE YOU THAT THE ELECTION ITSELF GOES FINE. BUT WHEN PEOPLE THERE鈥橲 A NARRATIVE, IF YOU WILL, OF PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, THOSE RESULTS ARE COMPLETELY FABRICATED. YEAH. SO MY COLLEAGUES AND I WROTE AN OP ED PIECE SAYING, YOU KNOW, BOTH PARTIES ARE TO BLAME ON THIS BECAUSE STACEY ABRAMS IN GEORGIA HAD FIVE LAWSUITS. NONE OF THEM WON. AND SHE CLAIMED IT WAS VOTER SUPPRESSION IN GEORGIA. AND THEN GEORGIA AGAIN UNDER TRUMP SAID IT WAS VOTER FRAUD. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS PENDULUM ALWAYS SWINGS BACK AND FORTH DEPENDING ON WHO WINS AND WHO LOSES. WELL, WAS IT VOTER SUPPRESSION OR WAS IT VOTER FRAUD? BUT WHEN WE AUDIT OUR ELECTIONS, NOTHING CHANGES. I鈥橫 GOING TO USE KANSAS AS AN EXAMPLE. WE HAD THE FIRST ABORTION CONSTITUTIONAL VOTE AFTER THE DOBBS DECISION, AND IT LOST. AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO COULD NOT BELIEVE IT LOST PUT $180,000 ON HIS PERSONAL CREDIT CARD TO HAVE RECOUNTS, AND NOT A SINGLE COUNTY FLIPPED. NOTHING CHANGED. AND AND AFTER THAT HAPPENED, ALL THE VOTER FRAUD CONCERNS PEOPLE HAD BECAUSE THEY SAW SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET, THEY HEARD A STORY. OUR PHONES QUIT RINGING BECAUSE THEY SAID, WELL, IT鈥橲 I MEAN, YOU CAN鈥橳 ARGUE WITH THE RESULT THAT鈥橲 BEEN HAND COUNTED. A LOT OF THE NARRATIVE, THOUGH. AROUND JANUARY SIXTH, WHICH I THINK THERE IS NO OTHER SIDE COUNTER NARRATIVE, IF YOU WILL. WAS THIS ELECTION WAS A SHAM. WE鈥橰E GOING TO STORM IT AND WE鈥橰E GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CHANGES. SO THAT鈥橲 THAT鈥橲 THAT WAS SCARY. I REMEMBER I WAS HOME WATCHING THAT UNFOLD AND IT WAS CRAZINESS. I CRIED THAT DAY. I LOVE OUR CAPITAL. UM, BEING SOMEONE WHO JUST IS A COLONIAL HISTORY BUFF, KNOWING HOW THAT CITY WAS. BUILT, IT JUST IT WAS A SAD DAY. HOWEVER, WE鈥橰E STILL AMERICA AND WE鈥橰E STILL THE GREAT IDEA AND AND WE ALWAYS HAVE DARK POINTS. I THINK IT WAS WINSTON CHURCHILL SAID THE AMERICANS ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT NOT TILL EVERY OTHER OPTION HAS BEEN EXPIRED AND, AND AND IT鈥橲 GOING TO BE OKAY. SOMETIMES BAD THINGS HAPPEN. SOMETIMES WE DO IT TO OURSELVES, BUT EVENTUALLY WE鈥橰E STILL A GREAT COUNTRY AND I THINK AMERICANS STILL LOVE AMERICA. SCOTT SCHWAB, A SECRETARY OF STATE FROM THE GREAT STA
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Local election workers fear threats to their safety as November nears. One group is trying to help
The group gathered inside the conference room, mostly women, fell silent as the audio recording began to play.Video above: How Secretaries of State Work to Ensure Trust in ElectionsThe male voice, clearly agitated, railed against what he thought had been fraud that cost former President Donald Trump reelection four years ago.鈥淵ou鈥檙e gonna pay for it,鈥� said the man, filling his message with expletives and suggesting his target鈥檚 throat be slashed with a knife. 鈥淲e will 鈥� take you out. Your family, your life."The call had been directed at one of their own, a city clerk who had overseen elections in 2020 in her suburban Detroit community. The former clerk, Tina Barton, played the recording of the call she had received to an audience that included several dozen local election clerks and a few law enforcement officials who had gathered recently inside an office building conference room in northern Michigan.鈥淚 want you to understand this voicemail is the same type of thing that we鈥檙e seeing across the country, and it can find you anywhere you are 鈥� small community, large community, Michigan, Arizona. It can find you,鈥� said Barton, who was overseeing elections in Rochester Hills when she received the voicemail a week after the 2020 presidential election.The recent gathering in Traverse City, a picturesque community on the shores of Lake Michigan in a county that has twice voted for Trump, was part of a national effort to train local election workers on how they can respond to threats and work with law enforcement to counter them.As the nation barrels toward another highly charged presidential election, the threats to election offices that have been an alarming consequence of Trump's false claims about his 2020 loss loom as a perilous wildcard for the thousands of local government workers who will oversee the indispensable infrastructure of the nation鈥檚 democracy this fall. The constant threats and harassment have contributed to an exodus of election officials across the country.Barton left her job in Rochester Hills shortly after the 2020 election and later became part of the newly formed Committee for Safe and Secure Elections. Since joining, she has given nearly 100 presentations throughout the country.Earlier this month, The Associated Press was granted rare access inside the committee鈥檚 training session in Traverse City and allowed to observe the scenarios election workers are likely to face this year and the discussions about how they and law enforcement can prepare for them.鈥淣one of these scenarios are sensational. They are all things that have already happened in some way, shape or form across the country,鈥� Barton tells the group. 鈥淭o say, 鈥極h, that could never happen.鈥� These things are already happening.鈥滲arton鈥檚 partner in the training is Justin Smith, the former sheriff in Larimer County, Colorado, who signed up after retiring last year and hearing directly from local election officials about the onslaught of threats they have faced since 2020. During the training, Smith often speaks directly to the police officers and sheriff鈥檚 deputies in the room, explaining the role they play in elections and how the environment has changed since 2020. In past years, election officials were likely to deal with issues on their own, such as protesters or unruly citizens looking to promote their candidates at polling places.鈥淚t鈥檚 not that simple anymore,鈥� Smith tells the group. 鈥淲e need to be at the table and be part of the solution.鈥漈o election officials, he explains how law enforcement has historically sought to keep its distance from anything to do with elections, mindful of First Amendment concerns and not wanting to interfere with anyone鈥檚 right to vote.Barton guides the election officials through various scenarios and encourages them to think through their responses, when it makes sense to alert law enforcement and when to consider releasing information to the public.鈥淚 know there鈥檚 been some, maybe disgruntlement across the country from some election officials that feel that they haven鈥檛 gotten the response from law enforcement that they thought law enforcement should give,鈥� Barton tells the election officials. 鈥淪o these conversations help us understand what they can actually do in those scenarios and what they can鈥檛 do.鈥漇he said election offices might deal with everything from threatening emails and phone calls to an AI-generated robocall sent to poll workers telling them to stay home on Election Day. One of the scenarios Barton presents to the group mirrors events that unfolded in the days immediately after elections last fall, when local election offices in a handful of states received letters in the mail that contained fentanyl, a highly potent synthetic opioid.Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, whose office helped sponsor and coordinate the Traverse City training, said it鈥檚 imperative for law enforcement and election officials to work together to ensure a smooth election in November.Benson said her office has been providing grants to election offices to help them boost security. The federal government also is engaged in the effort. The U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency will assess the physical security of local election offices and has written guidance for workers on how to de-escalate tense situations.Michael D. Shea, the sheriff in Grand Traverse County, said he was surprised at how vulnerable election officials can be because of the requirements associated with their job. He said it was understandable to have some concerns about elections, particularly with the use of technology in parts of the voting process, but said he trusted experts and his local election officials.鈥淭he goal is a safe, secure, fair election,鈥� said Shea, who attended the training. 鈥淎nd we intend to make that happen.鈥�

The group gathered inside the conference room, mostly women, fell silent as the audio recording began to play.

Video above: How Secretaries of State Work to Ensure Trust in Elections

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The male voice, clearly agitated, railed against what he thought had been fraud that cost former President Donald Trump reelection four years ago.

鈥淵ou鈥檙e gonna pay for it,鈥� said the man, filling his message with expletives and suggesting his target鈥檚 throat be slashed with a knife. 鈥淲e will 鈥� take you out. Your family, your life."

The call had been directed at one of their own, a city clerk who had overseen elections in 2020 in her suburban Detroit community. The former clerk, Tina Barton, played the recording of the call she had received to an audience that included several dozen local election clerks and a few law enforcement officials who had gathered recently inside an office building conference room in northern Michigan.

鈥淚 want you to understand this voicemail is the same type of thing that we鈥檙e seeing across the country, and it can find you anywhere you are 鈥� small community, large community, Michigan, Arizona. It can find you,鈥� said Barton, who was overseeing elections in Rochester Hills when she received the voicemail a week after the 2020 presidential election.

The recent gathering in Traverse City, a picturesque community on the shores of Lake Michigan in a county that has twice voted for Trump, was part of a national effort to train local election workers on how they can respond to threats and work with law enforcement to counter them.

As the nation barrels toward another highly charged presidential election, the threats to election offices that have been an alarming consequence of Trump's false claims about his 2020 loss loom as a perilous wildcard for the thousands of local government workers who will oversee the indispensable infrastructure of the nation鈥檚 democracy this fall. The constant threats and harassment have contributed to an exodus of election officials across the country.

Barton left her job in Rochester Hills shortly after the 2020 election and later became part of the newly formed Committee for Safe and Secure Elections. Since joining, she has given nearly 100 presentations throughout the country.

Earlier this month, The Associated Press was granted rare access inside the committee鈥檚 training session in Traverse City and allowed to observe the scenarios election workers are likely to face this year and the discussions about how they and law enforcement can prepare for them.

鈥淣one of these scenarios are sensational. They are all things that have already happened in some way, shape or form across the country,鈥� Barton tells the group. 鈥淭o say, 鈥極h, that could never happen.鈥� These things are already happening.鈥�

Barton鈥檚 partner in the training is Justin Smith, the former sheriff in Larimer County, Colorado, who signed up after retiring last year and hearing directly from local election officials about the onslaught of threats they have faced since 2020.

During the training, Smith often speaks directly to the police officers and sheriff鈥檚 deputies in the room, explaining the role they play in elections and how the environment has changed since 2020. In past years, election officials were likely to deal with issues on their own, such as protesters or unruly citizens looking to promote their candidates at polling places.

鈥淚t鈥檚 not that simple anymore,鈥� Smith tells the group. 鈥淲e need to be at the table and be part of the solution.鈥�

To election officials, he explains how law enforcement has historically sought to keep its distance from anything to do with elections, mindful of First Amendment concerns and not wanting to interfere with anyone鈥檚 right to vote.

Barton guides the election officials through various scenarios and encourages them to think through their responses, when it makes sense to alert law enforcement and when to consider releasing information to the public.

鈥淚 know there鈥檚 been some, maybe disgruntlement across the country from some election officials that feel that they haven鈥檛 gotten the response from law enforcement that they thought law enforcement should give,鈥� Barton tells the election officials. 鈥淪o these conversations help us understand what they can actually do in those scenarios and what they can鈥檛 do.鈥�

She said election offices might deal with everything from threatening emails and phone calls to an AI-generated robocall sent to poll workers telling them to stay home on Election Day. One of the scenarios Barton presents to the group mirrors events that unfolded in the days immediately after elections last fall, when local election offices in a handful of states received letters in the mail that contained fentanyl, a highly potent synthetic opioid.

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, whose office helped sponsor and coordinate the Traverse City training, said it鈥檚 imperative for law enforcement and election officials to work together to ensure a smooth election in November.

Benson said her office has been providing grants to election offices to help them boost security. The federal government also is engaged in the effort. The U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency will assess the physical security of local election offices and has written guidance for workers on how to de-escalate tense situations.

Michael D. Shea, the sheriff in Grand Traverse County, said he was surprised at how vulnerable election officials can be because of the requirements associated with their job. He said it was understandable to have some concerns about elections, particularly with the use of technology in parts of the voting process, but said he trusted experts and his local election officials.

鈥淭he goal is a safe, secure, fair election,鈥� said Shea, who attended the training. 鈥淎nd we intend to make that happen.鈥�