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Pence testifies before election probe grand jury, AP source says

Pence testifies before election probe grand jury, AP source says
Donald Trump's recent indictment, an arraignment in New York over hush money payments and the tax fraud he allegedly committed may be front and center at the moment but the former president still has several federal cases being built against him. *** couple of which have to do with this. The January six Capitol insurrection. And now, according to CNN, former Vice President, Mike Pence will apparently not fight *** subpoena to testify in front of *** grand jury. This is something Trump's counsel has already attempted. Thwart saying when Pence was initially ordered to appear in front of the judicial body that any conversation between former President Trump and former Vice President, Pence was protected by executive privilege. That move was rejected. But the judge also said Pence could refuse to answer questions related to overseeing the certification of the election results on January 6th 2021. As Pence's team indicated as President of Congress on that day, he would be protected by the speech and debate clause within the constitution with Pence's spokesperson saying about it quote, having vindicated that principle of the constitution, Vice President Pence will not appeal the judge's ruling and will comply with the subpoena as required by law, Donald Trump and Mike Pence did not end their term in the White House. On *** good note with Trump publicly blasting Pence for not committing to an insurrection and ultimately not complying with Trump's seditious act of attempting to overturn the will of the people. Donald Trump's recent indictment, an arraignment in New York over hush money payments and the tax fraud he allegedly committed may be front and center at the moment but the former president still has several federal cases being built against him. *** couple of which have to do with this. The January six Capitol insurrection. And now, according to CNN, former Vice President, Mike Pence will apparently not fight *** subpoena to testify in front of *** grand jury. This is something Trump's counsel has already attempted. Thwart saying when Pence was initially ordered to appear in front of the judicial body that any conversation between former President Trump and former Vice President, Pence was protected by executive privilege. That move was rejected. But the judge also said Pence could refuse to answer questions related to overseeing the certification of the election results on January 6th 2021. As Pence's team indicated as President of Congress on that day, he would be protected by the speech and debate clause within the constitution with Pence's spokesperson saying about it quote, having vindicated that principle of the constitution, Vice President Pence will not appeal the judge's ruling and will comply with the subpoena as required by law, Donald Trump and Mike Pence did not end their term in the White House. On *** good note with Trump publicly blasting Pence for not committing to an insurrection and ultimately not complying with Trump's seditious act of attempting to overturn the will of the people.
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Pence testifies before election probe grand jury, AP source says
Former Vice President Mike Pence testified Thursday before a federal grand jury investigating efforts by then-President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the matter.Pence's appearance before a grand jury in Washington scrutinizing the president he once loyally served is a milestone in the Justice Department's investigation and likely gives prosecutors a key first-person account about certain conversations and events in the weeks preceding the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. It also carries significant political implications, coming as Pence hints at entering the 2024 presidential race and a potential run against Trump, the Republican front-runner.The testimony, confirmed by a person familiar with the matter who insisted on anonymity to discuss a secret grand jury matter, came hours after a federal appeals court in a sealed order rejected a bid by Trump's lawyers to block Pence's appearance.Pence was subpoenaed to testify earlier this year, but Trump's lawyers objected, citing executive privilege concerns. A judge in March refused to block Pence's appearance, though he did side with the former vice president鈥檚 constitutional claims that he could not be forced to answer questions about anything related to his role as presiding over the Senate鈥檚 certification of votes on Jan. 6.鈥淲e鈥檒l obey the law, we鈥檒l tell the truth,鈥� Pence said in an interview with CBS News鈥� 鈥淔ace the Nation鈥� that aired Sunday. 鈥淎nd the story that I鈥檝e been telling the American people all across the country, the story that I wrote in the pages of my memoir, that鈥檒l be the story I tell in that setting.鈥滻t was not immediately clear what Pence may have told the grand jury, but he is the most high-profile Trump administration official to be summoned before the panel. Inside the federal building where the grand jury has been meeting, just blocks from the U.S. Capitol, security was high because of Pence's appearance with an unusual amount of activity from U.S. Marshals.Pence has spoken extensively about Trump鈥檚 pressure campaign urging him to reject Democrat Joe Biden鈥檚 presidential election victory in the days leading up to Jan. 6, including in his book, 鈥淪o Help Me God.鈥� Pence, as vice president, had a ceremonial role overseeing Congress鈥� counting of the Electoral College vote but did not have the power to affect the results, despite Trump鈥檚 contention otherwise.Pence, a former Indiana governor and congressman, has said that Trump endangered his family and everyone else who was at the Capitol that day and history will hold him 鈥渁ccountable.鈥濃淔or four years, we had a close working relationship. It did not end well,鈥� Pence wrote, summing up their time in the White House.Trump was speaking in New Hampshire when news broke of Pence's grand jury appearance. Asked at a diner if he was concerned about his testimony, Trump responded, 鈥淣o I鈥檓 not and I don鈥檛 know anything about it.鈥滾awyers for Pence had raised their own, more narrow challenge to the subpoena. They argued that because Pence was serving in his capacity as president of the Senate as electoral votes were being counted in Congress on Jan. 6, he was protected from being forced to testify about that process under the Constitution鈥檚 鈥渟peech or debate鈥� clause, which is intended to protect members of Congress from being questioned about official legislative acts.A judge agreed with that argument, effectively narrowing the scope of his expected testimony.The Justice Department special counsel leading the investigation, Jack Smith, has cast a broad net in interviews and has sought the testimony of a long list of former Trump aides, including ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone and former adviser Stephen Miller.Smith is separately investigating Trump over the potential mishandling of hundreds of classified documents at his Palm Beach, Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago, as well as possible efforts to obstruct that probe.It is not clear when either of the special counsel鈥檚 investigations will end or who, if anyone, will be charged._____Associated Press writers Michael Kunzelman, Lindsay Whitehurst and Nathan Ellgren in Washington and Michelle L. Price in Manchester, New Hampshire, contributed to this report.

Former Vice President Mike Pence testified Thursday before a federal grand jury investigating efforts by then-President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Pence's appearance before a grand jury in Washington scrutinizing the president he once loyally served is a milestone in the Justice Department's investigation and likely gives prosecutors a key first-person account about certain conversations and events in the weeks preceding the at the U.S. Capitol. It also carries significant political implications, coming as Pence hints at entering the 2024 presidential race and a potential run against Trump, the Republican front-runner.

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The testimony, confirmed by a person familiar with the matter who insisted on anonymity to discuss a secret grand jury matter, came hours after a federal appeals court in a sealed order rejected a bid by Trump's lawyers to block Pence's appearance.

Pence was subpoenaed to testify earlier this year, but Trump's lawyers objected, citing executive privilege concerns. A judge in March refused to block Pence's appearance, though he did side with the former vice president鈥檚 constitutional claims that he could not be forced to answer questions about anything related to his role as presiding over the Senate鈥檚 certification of votes on Jan. 6.

鈥淲e鈥檒l obey the law, we鈥檒l tell the truth,鈥� Pence said in an interview with CBS News鈥� 鈥淔ace the Nation鈥� that aired Sunday. 鈥淎nd the story that I鈥檝e been telling the American people all across the country, the story that I wrote in the pages of my memoir, that鈥檒l be the story I tell in that setting.鈥�

It was not immediately clear what Pence may have told the grand jury, but he is the most high-profile Trump administration official to be summoned before the panel. Inside the federal building where the grand jury has been meeting, just blocks from the U.S. Capitol, security was high because of Pence's appearance with an unusual amount of activity from U.S. Marshals.

Pence has spoken extensively about Trump鈥檚 pressure campaign urging him to reject Democrat Joe Biden鈥檚 presidential election victory in the days leading up to Jan. 6, including in his book, 鈥淪o Help Me God.鈥� Pence, as vice president, had a ceremonial role overseeing Congress鈥� counting of the Electoral College vote but did not have the power to affect the results, despite Trump鈥檚 contention otherwise.

Pence, a former Indiana governor and congressman, has said that Trump endangered his family and everyone else who was at the Capitol that day and history will hold him 鈥渁ccountable.鈥�

鈥淔or four years, we had a close working relationship. It did not end well,鈥� Pence wrote, summing up their time in the White House.

Trump was speaking in New Hampshire when news broke of Pence's grand jury appearance. Asked at a diner if he was concerned about his testimony, Trump responded, 鈥淣o I鈥檓 not and I don鈥檛 know anything about it.鈥�

Lawyers for Pence had raised their own, more narrow challenge to the subpoena. They argued that because Pence was serving in his capacity as president of the Senate as electoral votes were being counted in Congress on Jan. 6, he was protected from being forced to testify about that process under the Constitution鈥檚 鈥渟peech or debate鈥� clause, which is intended to protect members of Congress from being questioned about official legislative acts.

A judge agreed with that argument, effectively narrowing the scope of his expected testimony.

The Justice Department special counsel leading the investigation, Jack Smith, has cast a broad net in interviews and has sought the testimony of a long list of former Trump aides, including ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone and former adviser Stephen Miller.

Smith is separately investigating Trump over the potential mishandling of hundreds of at his Palm Beach, Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago, as well as possible efforts to obstruct that probe.

It is not clear when either of the special counsel鈥檚 investigations will end or who, if anyone, will be charged.

_____

Associated Press writers Michael Kunzelman, Lindsay Whitehurst and Nathan Ellgren in Washington and Michelle L. Price in Manchester, New Hampshire, contributed to this report.