Trump says he doesn鈥檛 plan to remove Fed chairman Jerome Powell
President-elect Donald Trump said in an interview that aired on Sunday that he has no plans to remove Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.
Appearing on NBC鈥檚 鈥淢eet the Press with Kristen Welker,鈥� Trump was asked if he would try to replace Powell.
鈥淣o, I don鈥檛 think so. I don鈥檛 see it,鈥� Trump said. 鈥淚 think if I told him to, he would. But if I asked him to, he probably wouldn鈥檛. But if I told him to, he would.鈥�
Welker followed by asking Trump if he had plans to ask Powell to resign. Trump responded, 鈥淣o, I don鈥檛.鈥�
The comments mark the first time since the presidential election that Trump has publicly backed Powell. In July, Trump said he would not fire Powell if he won the election and in November, a senior adviser to Trump reaffirmed that Trump would likely allow Powell would finish his term as chairman.
Trump, however, has threatened to remove Powell from his post on several occasions after the central bank raised interest rates in 2018 and even called Powell 鈥渢he enemy鈥� in 2019. In March 2020, Trump told reporters he had the 鈥渞ight to remove (Powell) as chairman鈥� and that 鈥渉e has, so far, made a lot of bad decisions, in my opinion,鈥� after markets tanked amid the pandemic. But he also praised Powell for cutting rates to zero to prevent an economic collapse.
Trump nominated Powell to serve as head of the U.S. central bank in November 2017. Powell was later reappointed by President Joe Biden to serve another term.
鈥楴ot permitted under the law鈥�
Barely 48 hours passed after Trump鈥檚 election before a reporter asked Powell if he鈥檇 resign if Trump asked him to. Powell responded that he would not.
鈥淣ot permitted under the law,鈥� Powell repeated twice.
There are legal barriers for Trump, and any other president, to remove or fire a Fed chair. It requires what America鈥檚 central bank refers to as 鈥渇or cause.鈥�
Ultimately, the Supreme Court could have the final say on what merits a 鈥渇or cause鈥� firing of a Fed chair. But while that fight, which would probably be lengthy, plays out, Powell would likely still get to stay in his job until his term ends.
Trump wants input on interest rates
Trump had accused Powell of being 鈥減olitical,鈥� and said that the Fed has considered rate cuts 鈥渇or the sake of maybe getting people elected鈥� in a February interview with Fox Business Network鈥檚 Maria Bartiromo.
Trump has also said that his threats to remove Powell were because interest rates were too high, but the Fed chair went too far by cutting rates 鈥渢oo much.鈥�
Trump has also shared another plan if he can鈥檛 fire Powell: getting the central bank to consult him on interest rate decisions.
鈥淚 feel the president should have at least a say in there. I feel that strongly,鈥� Trump said at a news conference in August about the Fed鈥檚 interest rate decisions. 鈥淚 made a lot of money. I was very successful. And I think I have a better instinct than, in many cases, people that would be on the Federal Reserve 鈥� or the chairman.鈥�
The Fed is intended to be an independent governing body free from political influence so that it doesn鈥檛 make decisions that could upset the scale of job creation and low inflation.
It鈥檚 unclear whether Trump would need congressional approval to take away the Fed鈥檚 independence. Either way, Powell is against the idea, and told reporters in September that independent central banks typically have lower inflation.
鈥淚t鈥檚 a good institutional arrangement, which has been good for the public, and I hope and strongly believe that it will continue,鈥� he said.