In better times, Ukrainian drone enthusiasts flew their gadgets into the sky to photograph weddings, fertilize soybean fields or race other drones for fun. Now some are risking their lives by forming a volunteer drone force to help their country repel the Russian invasion."Kyiv needs you and your drone at this moment of fury!" read a Facebook post late last week from the Ukrainian military, calling for citizens to donate hobby drones and to volunteer as experienced pilots to operate them.One entrepreneur who runs a retail store selling consumer drones in the capital said its entire stock of some 300 drones made by Chinese company DJI has been dispersed for the cause. Others are working to get more drones across the border from friends and colleagues in Poland and elsewhere in Europe."Why are we doing this? We have no other choice. This is our land, our home," said Denys Sushko, head of operations at Kyiv-based industrial drone technology company DroneUA, which before the war was helping to provide drone services to farmers and energy companies.Sushko fled his home late last week after his family had to take cover from a nearby explosion. He spoke to The Associated Press by phone and text message Friday after climbing up a tree for better reception."We try to use absolutely everything that can help protect our country and drones are a great tool for getting real-time data," said Sushko, who doesn't have a drone with him but is providing expertise. "Now in Ukraine no one remains indifferent. Everyone does what they can."Unlike the much larger Turkish-built combat drones that Ukraine has in its arsenal, off-the-shelf consumer drones aren't much use as weapons 鈥� but they can be powerful reconnaissance tools. Civilians have been using the aerial cameras to track Russian convoys and then relay the images and GPS coordinates to Ukrainian troops. Some of the machines have night vision and heat sensors.But there's a downside: DJI, the leading provider of consumer drones in Ukraine and around the world, provides a tool that can easily pinpoint the location of an inexperienced drone operator, and no one really knows what the Chinese firm or its customers might do with that data. That makes some volunteers uneasy. DJI declined to discuss specifics about how it has responded to the war.Taras Troiak, a dealer of DJI drones who started the Kyiv retail store, said DJI has been sending mixed signals about whether it's providing preferential access to 鈥� or disabling 鈥� its drone detection platform AeroScope, which both sides of the conflict can potentially use to monitor the other's flight paths and the communication links between a drone and the device that's controlling it.DJI spokesperson Adam Lisberg said wartime uses were "never anticipated" when the company created AeroScope to give policing and aviation authorities 鈥� including clients in both Russia and Ukraine 鈥� a window into detecting drones flying in their immediate airspace. He said some users in Ukraine have reported technical problems but DJI has not disabled the tool or given preferential access.In the meantime, Ukrainian drone experts said they've been doing whatever they can to teach operators how to protect their whereabouts."There are a number of tricks that allow you to increase the level of security when using them," Sushko said.Sushko said many in the industry are now trying to get more small drones 鈥� including DJI alternatives 鈥� transported into Ukraine from neighboring European countries. They can also be used to assist search-and-rescue operations.Ukraine has a thriving community of drone experts, some of whom were educated at the National Aviation University or the nearby Kyiv Polytechnic University and went on to found local drone and robotics startups."They've got this homebuilt industry and all these smart people who build drones," said Faine Greenwood, a U.S.-based consultant on drones for civic uses such as disaster response.Troiak's DJI-branded store in Kyiv, which is now shuttered as city residents take shelter, was a hub for that community because it runs a maintenance center and hosts training sessions and a hobby club. Even the country's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, once paid a visit to the store to buy a drone for one of his children, Troiak said.A public drone-focused Facebook group administered by Troiak counts more than 15,000 members who have been trading tips about how to assist Ukrainian troops. One drone photographer who belongs to the Ukrainian Association of Drone Racing team told The Associated Press he decided to donate his DJI Mavic drone to the military rather than try to fly it himself. He and others asked not to be named out of fear for their safety."The risk to civilian drone operators inside Ukraine is still great," said Australian drone security expert Mike Monnik. "Locating the operator's location could result in directed missile fire, given what we've seen in the fighting so far. It's no longer rules of engagement as we have had in previous conflicts." In recent days, Russian-language channels on the messaging app Telegram have featured discussions on ways to find Ukrainian drones, Monnik said.Some in Ukraine's drone community already have experience deploying their expertise in conflict zones because of the country's long-running conflict with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine. Monnik's firm, DroneSec, has tracked multiple instances just in the past year of both sides of that conflict arming small drones with explosives. One thing that Ukrainians said they've learned is that small quadcopter drones, such as those sold at stores, are rarely effective at hitting a target with explosive payloads."It would seem somewhat short-sighted to waste one," said Greenwood, the consultant based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "I assume the chief goal would be recon. But if things are getting desperate, who knows."DJI also has experience in responding to warfighters trying to weaponize its drones and used so-called "geofencing" technology to block drone movements during conflicts in Syria and Iraq. It's not clear yet if it will do the same in Ukraine; even if it does, there are ways to work around it.Small civilian drones are no match against Russian combat power but will likely become increasingly important in a protracted war, leaving drone-makers no option to be completely neutral. Any action they take or avoid is "indirectly taking a side," said PW Singer, a New America fellow who wrote a book about war robots."We will see ad-hoc arming of these small civilian drones much the way we've seen that done in conflicts around the world from Syria to Iraq and Yemen and Afghanistan," Singer said. "Just like an IED or a Molotov cocktail, they won't change the tide of battle but they will definitely make it difficult for Russian soldiers."鈥斺赌擜P video journalist Nathan Ellgren contributed to this report.
In better times, Ukrainian drone enthusiasts flew their gadgets into the sky to photograph weddings, fertilize soybean fields or race other drones for fun. Now some are risking their lives by forming a volunteer drone force to help their country repel the Russian invasion.
"Kyiv needs you and your drone at this moment of fury!" read a Facebook post late last week from the Ukrainian military, calling for citizens to donate hobby drones and to volunteer as experienced pilots to operate them.
One entrepreneur who runs a retail store selling consumer drones in the capital said its entire stock of some 300 drones made by Chinese company DJI has been dispersed for the cause. Others are working to get more drones across the border from friends and colleagues in Poland and elsewhere in Europe.
"Why are we doing this? We have no other choice. This is our land, our home," said Denys Sushko, head of operations at Kyiv-based industrial drone technology company DroneUA, which before the war was helping to provide drone services to farmers and energy companies.
Sushko fled his home late last week after his family had to take cover from a nearby explosion. He spoke to The Associated Press by phone and text message Friday after climbing up a tree for better reception.
"We try to use absolutely everything that can help protect our country and drones are a great tool for getting real-time data," said Sushko, who doesn't have a drone with him but is providing expertise. "Now in Ukraine no one remains indifferent. Everyone does what they can."
Ukrainian Security Forces via AP
This 2022 aerial image provided by Ukrainian security forces, taken by a drone and shown on a screen, shows a blown-up building near the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine. The exact date and time of the image are unknown. In better times, Ukrainian drone enthusiasts flew their gadgets into the sky to photograph weddings, fertilize soybean fields or race other drones for fun. Now some are risking their lives by forming a volunteer drone force to help their country repel the Russian invasion.
Unlike the much larger Turkish-built combat drones that Ukraine has in its arsenal, off-the-shelf consumer drones aren't much use as weapons 鈥� but they can be powerful reconnaissance tools. Civilians have been using the aerial cameras to track Russian convoys and then relay the images and GPS coordinates to Ukrainian troops. Some of the machines have night vision and heat sensors.
But there's a downside: DJI, the leading provider of consumer drones in Ukraine and around the world, provides a tool that can easily pinpoint the location of an inexperienced drone operator, and no one really knows what the Chinese firm or its customers might do with that data. That makes some volunteers uneasy. DJI declined to discuss specifics about how it has responded to the war.
Taras Troiak, a dealer of DJI drones who started the Kyiv retail store, said DJI has been sending mixed signals about whether it's providing preferential access to 鈥� or disabling 鈥� its drone detection platform AeroScope, which both sides of the conflict can potentially use to monitor the other's flight paths and the communication links between a drone and the device that's controlling it.
DJI spokesperson Adam Lisberg said wartime uses were "never anticipated" when the company created AeroScope to give policing and aviation authorities 鈥� including clients in both Russia and Ukraine 鈥� a window into detecting drones flying in their immediate airspace. He said some users in Ukraine have reported technical problems but DJI has not disabled the tool or given preferential access.
In the meantime, Ukrainian drone experts said they've been doing whatever they can to teach operators how to protect their whereabouts.
"There are a number of tricks that allow you to increase the level of security when using them," Sushko said.
Sushko said many in the industry are now trying to get more small drones 鈥� including DJI alternatives 鈥� transported into Ukraine from neighboring European countries. They can also be used to assist search-and-rescue operations.
Ukraine has a thriving community of drone experts, some of whom were educated at the National Aviation University or the nearby Kyiv Polytechnic University and went on to found local drone and robotics startups.
"They've got this homebuilt industry and all these smart people who build drones," said Faine Greenwood, a U.S.-based consultant on drones for civic uses such as disaster response.
Troiak's DJI-branded store in Kyiv, which is now shuttered as city residents take shelter, was a hub for that community because it runs a maintenance center and hosts training sessions and a hobby club. Even the country's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, once paid a visit to the store to buy a drone for one of his children, Troiak said.
A public drone-focused Facebook group administered by Troiak counts more than 15,000 members who have been trading tips about how to assist Ukrainian troops. One drone photographer who belongs to the Ukrainian Association of Drone Racing team told The Associated Press he decided to donate his DJI Mavic drone to the military rather than try to fly it himself. He and others asked not to be named out of fear for their safety.
"The risk to civilian drone operators inside Ukraine is still great," said Australian drone security expert Mike Monnik. "Locating the operator's location could result in directed missile fire, given what we've seen in the fighting so far. It's no longer rules of engagement as we have had in previous conflicts." In recent days, Russian-language channels on the messaging app Telegram have featured discussions on ways to find Ukrainian drones, Monnik said.
Some in Ukraine's drone community already have experience deploying their expertise in conflict zones because of the country's long-running conflict with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine. Monnik's firm, DroneSec, has tracked multiple instances just in the past year of both sides of that conflict arming small drones with explosives. One thing that Ukrainians said they've learned is that small quadcopter drones, such as those sold at stores, are rarely effective at hitting a target with explosive payloads.
"It would seem somewhat short-sighted to waste one," said Greenwood, the consultant based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "I assume the chief goal would be recon. But if things are getting desperate, who knows."
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Andrey Goncharuk, 68, a member of territorial defense wipes his face in the backyard of a house that was damaged by a Russian airstrike, according to locals, in Gorenka, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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Ukrainian volunteers sort donated foods for later distribution to the local population while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy appears on television in Lviv, western Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
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A woman runs as she flees with her family across a destroyed bridge in the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2. 2022. (AP Photo/Emilio Morenatti)
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People gather in the Kyiv subway, using it as a bomb shelter in Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)
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A woman cries in the small basement of a house crowded with people seeking shelter from Russian airstrikes, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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A woman cries outside houses damaged by a Russian airstrike, according to locals, in Gorenka, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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Passengers rush to board a train leaving to Slovakia from the Lviv railway station, in Lviv, west Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)
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French teacher Pjotr Vyerko, 81, holds a rifle standing behind the broken window of a bedroom in his house which was damaged by the shock waves of a Russian airstrike in Gorenka, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. Vyerko said he's prepared to use his rifle to shoot invaders because he has a daughter and grandson. "If they come here, I'll jab them with a pitchfork if I don't have weapons -- but I do have weapons," he said. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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Ukrainian soldiers check people's identity cards as they flee their neighborhoods, on the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2. 2022. (AP Photo/Emilio Morenatti)
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A rocket fragment lies on the ground next to a building of Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) after a rocket attack in Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Andrew Marienko)
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A woman, who did not want to be identified, poses for a photograph as she holds her newborn girl in the basement of a maternity hospital converted into a medical ward and used as a bomb shelter during air raid alerts, in Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)
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Members of the Ukrainian territorial defense guard a checkpoint in Gorenka, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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A woman from Ukraine covered with a blanket, stands at a train station in Przemysl, southeastern Poland, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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A baby sits with his mother inside a train leaving the Lviv railway station, in Lviv, west Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)
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Flames and smoke rise from a damaged gym following shelling in Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)
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A girl which fled from the war in Ukraine reunites with her father after crossing the border in Medyka, southeastern Poland, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Visar Kryeziu)
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A man carries combat gear as he leaves Poland to fight in Ukraine, at the border crossing in Medyka, Poland, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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A woman is overwhelmed by emotion in the backyard of a house damaged by a Russian airstrike, according to locals, in Gorenka, outside the capital Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
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Actors comfort each other inside the dressing room of a theatre used as a temporary shelter for displaced people during an air raid siren in Lviv, western Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
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A Polish soldier carries a baby of a Ukrainian refugee upon their arrival at the border crossing in Medyka, southeastern Poland, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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Police detain a demonstrator against Russia's attack on Ukraine in St. Petersburg, Russia, Wednesday, March 2, 2022. (AP Photo/Dmitri Lovetsky)
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DJI also has experience in responding to warfighters trying to weaponize its drones and used so-called "geofencing" technology to block drone movements during conflicts in Syria and Iraq. It's not clear yet if it will do the same in Ukraine; even if it does, there are ways to work around it.
Small civilian drones are no match against Russian combat power but will likely become increasingly important in a protracted war, leaving drone-makers no option to be completely neutral. Any action they take or avoid is "indirectly taking a side," said PW Singer, a New America fellow who wrote a book about war robots.
"We will see ad-hoc arming of these small civilian drones much the way we've seen that done in conflicts around the world from Syria to Iraq and Yemen and Afghanistan," Singer said. "Just like an IED or a Molotov cocktail, they won't change the tide of battle but they will definitely make it difficult for Russian soldiers."
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AP video journalist Nathan Ellgren contributed to this report.